3rd Party Validation

One of my preoccupations with this blog lately has been to round up all the 3rd party validation testing that's been performed on hho gas based hybrids. It hasnt been easy because companies marketing these solutions seem to be growing rapidly just based on field tests of prospective customers who eventually become customers proper. 

Today, there was a news story done where the news station crew itself installed a unit on their news truck and ran a before/after test on a DYNAMOMETER.  They found their Dodge SUV increased MPG from 9mpg to 23mpg.  That's a 60% increase in mpg.  

I added the story to the Water Hybrids Review Page. Check it out!

Reviews

I did a little browsing of the web over the weekend and the explosion of websites, products and interest in hho gas is becoming mind boggling. In the coming days, we will start investigating more commercial entities targeting industry and fleets. And additionally, we may begin adding more products to the Water Hybrid Systems Review page. For now it's a good starting point if you are looking for information about some of the ebooks (like Water4Gas) and kits (like Hydrogen Boost) on the market.

Korean Government mandates HHO

I've been fortunate to be communicating with Kevin Kantola from Hydrogen Car & Vehicles about HHO and it's future. He is certainly one of the most knowledgeable sources of information for hydrogen generators for cars both fuel cells and hybrid plugins. He's a much accomplished and dedicated blogger.

Today he posted a great article on HHO generators and hydrogen on demand systems. Of note to me was the move by the South Korean Government to mandate HHO be installed on over 100,000 transport trucks in large part to cut down on emissions. Also of interest was a company called Hydrorunner which has 3rd party verification that their HHO on demand product is not a scam. There's alot of great information on Kevin's site.

1996 Cadillac from 19mpg to 53mpg

You really need to read about this guy in Alabama, Larry Thrasher, who has been experimenting with his own hydrogen on demand system for the past 18 months. He was recently covered by his local press for apparently creating a system that took his 1996 Cadillac from 19 to 53mpg. BTW, his wife's 1996 Toyota gets 71mpg. He uses a 14 gallon water tank.

He'll speak about his findings on Monday, May 19 at Calhoun Community College in Decatur, from 6-9pm. Thrasher has rented Calhoun's Aerospace Training Center for the lecture, and will charge $60.00 per person.

New Blog on Water Conversion Kits

I started a new page on the various Water Hybrid Conversion Systems that are popping up all over the place. If you googled hho gas and found this page, you may be interested in reading about these systems.

In a previous post, I pointed out that the Aquygen folks are focused on a solution for trucking fleets right now and will later turn their attention to a consumer version. In the meantime, you have a growing list of offerings in the marketplace all seeming to show the same thing: how to create your own water hybrid conversion kit using easily obtainable parts.

So, if you're interested in the various offerings out there, check out this page.

UPDATE:  In a previous post, I wondered when some high school students would test out these HHO Kits.  Looks like a couple kids in Kentucky did just that!  Look at their results:

s State-Journal.com - Tech students make hydrogen cells for their teacher's car

The US Department of Energy dips it's toe

When I started this blog 18 months ago, all I really hoped to accomplish was to learn more about blogging by tracking an interesting news thread related to a CNN story on Aquygen. I didnt start this as a cheerleading soap box for hydrogen fuel cells or Aquygen for that matter. It just seemed like an interesting story that captures the imagination of anyone who ponders it for more than a moment: a car that can run on water?  Which ever way the wind blows on that one seemed like a good place to be--either it gets debunked and you have a human interest story covering a modern day scam or it gets validated and a modern energy revolution ensues transforming modern day life in a way we couldnt imagine even 5 yrs ago.  Nice odds either way. 

What's interesting to me is when I tell people I have a blog on water/hydrogen fuel cells, almost no one ask me whether or not I believe in it. Instead, they ask about what it's like to blog and how much money I earn from adsense, etc.   I've never taken a public position on where I stand with regard to this technology.  I reason with myself that I'm not a scientist capable of disproving these claims and try to simply stick to reporting or sharing information I find on the topic.  But If you've read this blog over the last several months, I think you can tell that I am hopeful about water based fuel cells.  I dont spend alot of time looking for disproving information....but I can tell you there are alot of angry people out there who identify themselves as either scientists or very science minded and who dismiss this technology with a  sneer.   Here's an example of what I mean from an engineering forums website. 

One good thing came from that article in that it caused me to look into what our very own USA tax dollars are doing to examine this new set of energy efficiency claims. After all, what are we getting for our $25Bil/yr anyway? Actually, that's a much wider scope than I'd like to cover here obviously so I confined it to a simple, "is anyone looking at this technology at DOE?"

Well, I couldnt find any studies or funded research per se but that was via a 10minute scan of their website.   What I did find was a section of the DOE website devoted to Alternative Fuels and Advanced Vehicles Data and more specifically a page on Hydrogen and Fuel Cell Related Links. 

If you scour that list you may find more than I did but what I found was a listing of a company called Hy-Drive Technologies LTD.  It appears to be a publicly traded company in Canada.  And their main focus is hydrogen on demand systems for vehicles although they appear to be heavily focused on heavy machinery vehicles....naturally, right, since that's where the consumption and dollars are if this thing is ever going to get going. 

What's interesting about Hy-Drive is they have a section listing the science behind their capabilities. Take a look at this list of scientific research related to their hydrogen on demand hybrid system.  And if you are a potential investor, have a read of this: short sweet summary of their capabilities from a benefits/advantages point of view. 

I think it's interesting to see how organized and serious this company is about pursuing a business based on a hydrogen on demand system.  While it does not constitute scientific proof, I think the fact that a publicly traded company is pursuing this at least puts the venture on a footing of increased legal scrutiny that is significant. 

But as for the Department of Energy having a link on it's website to this company, I find it very very interesting.  Yes, but you say, they have a disclaimer on that website saying they dont endorse any organization in the list.   Well, my response is  take a closer look at the full disclaimer statement.  This is a human edited list. And here's a note for the legal department at DOE to ponder: "The researchers and technical writers made diligent efforts to ensure the information presented on this site is accurate and complete."  

To me, that's fairly interesting but of course more information still needs to be gathered.

Photo Credit:  Hy-Drive's photo used in this post is found at this URL. 

Who is reading this blog?

One of the more interesting entrys into this blog is coming from persons using google to translate this blog from English into Arabic. 

Here's the URL.

Also, it's probably not related but have a look at this similar Arab/english blog.

Enthusiastic Article

Liz Casey puts together a nice piece that shows what happens when you let Aquygen capture your imagination.

Energy Planet

I was happy to see this blog listed in EnergyPlanet's Renewable Energy Directory. I consider this blog you're reading a microtopic blog which focuses fairly narrowly on the gas known as Aquygen.

Regarding the directory, it seems like the sort of thing I wish I had thought of! Best of luck EPRED!

New Website on HHO Gas

Another new website on HHO Gas. I tried to post a comment on the blog but comments seemed to be turned off.

Water4Gas Journal

This guy says he's following the Water4gas manuals and posting pics/videos on his progress.

LA Chronicle on Water4Gas

As stated previously, Hydrogen Technology Applications Inc is working on an automobile application for their Aquygen technology aka hho gas. This would essentially create a hybrid or possibly even a non-carbon fuel based automobile. But they are focusing on the trucking industry first before turning attention to consumer automobiles.

In the meantime, what about these other outfits that have created their own hydrogen extraction systems? One such company is Water4Gas mentioned in a recent Los Angeles Chronicle article. The article mentions that they offer two ebooks on how to build a kit that creates a hybrid out of your current vehicle. It goes on to say the kit can be built for less than $150 using parts from a hardware store.

Venture Capital

Interview with Russ Scott continued:

Question: Have you received Venture Capital Funding?

Russ Scott: I will not comment. .....first....I will comment on that. We will not accept venture capital money! We have not and will not.

Question: so you have your own funding?

Russ Scott: We dont need to. We do not need to accept venture capital money.

Question: have you been approached though?

Russ Scott: Oh of course. Every day.

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last installment on DoD applications.

Immitations

Here's the third installment of an interview I had with Russ Scott, COO at Hyrdogen Technology Applications Inc.

Question: There are other companies creating technologies that seem to be similar to your Aquygen. Would you care to comment on these technologies? Are they scams?

Russ Scott: I dont know if they're scams or not. I would offer you this. If they are producing water form an electrolysis and they're using mason jars, that's just about enough gas. Uh...the best way i could describe it to you and i dont mean to be rude. You could flatulate more gas than they're going to produce using a mason jar. I dont have the time to go down through each one and tell you how they are different. The only thing is, we've taken alot of time and an awful amount of R&D with 3rd party laboratories in the US and Europe to prove we are not Brown's gas and we are not these other gases. Because we are who we are and because we make a very unique gas that to date no one else can compare their gas to ours because we create more hydrogen in our gas than anyone else out there that we have identified. Thats how we stand apart. We have less water in our gas, more hydrogen in our gas, blah, blah blah. That's not just us saying that we have 3rd party validation now that supports that we have this unique capability to produce this very rich hydrogen gas...that sets us apart from the others out their that we have tested. We've even gone to the point of buying their equipment and having at the 3rd party laboratory along with ours, where the gas was taken directly from the apparatus and results of the test were fed back to us from independent laboratories.

Question: is there someone you could cite in that regard in terms of 3rd party laboratories?

Russ Scott: I will not let that out until we are ready to make an announcement through all the media. I would not do that through one source. But, you know, we've got laboratories that we've done this with as long as my arm almost.

Question: do you think these other devices are unsafe?

Russ Scott: I dont know. I really dont know. I've not been in the room with them. I'm not an engineer. I've not looked at those devices and frankly, as long as I know that we are unique from anything else that's out there and that we produce more than and better than....I dont care about them.

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Sorry, next installment concerns DoD and Venture Capital.

Where does your gasoline money go?

Ever wonder where your gas dollar goes in terms of tax vs producers, etc? CNN has an interesting piece that breaks out where your $3+/gallon goes. Sure would be nice to be able to augment this by at least partially powering your car with water.

Immitations?

Good overview page by Joseph Riso concerning Hydrogen or HHO MPG Boosters.

Interview Cont: Update on Automotive Application

Here's the next installment from my interview with Russ Scott, COO of Technology Applications Inc. on 26 March 2008.


Question: has there been progress in terms of releasing an automobile application?

Russ Scott: when you talk about automotive, are you talking about truck fleets or passenger vehicles? We are not going to announce a passenger vehicle application for this before 2010. Now, I'm not going to tell you early 2010, 2nd qtr 2010...I'm just going to say we will not have a passenger vehicle application ready for commercialization before 2010. So between now and 2010, we're spending all our effort in doing the R&D and the validation with two Fortune 300 companies truck fleets.

Question: So for now, you're just focused on truck fleets?

Russ Scott: Initially, we intend to spend our time in the early stages here with on the road truck fleets.

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In future installments, Russ will comment on Venture Capital, Immitators & 3rd party validation of claims, etc...

New Blog on Vertigro

I started a new blog based on a story that CNN published concerning a vertical growing system that can produce biomass that can be converted to fuel. Here's an intriguing excerpt from the story:

Kertz said he can produce about 100,000 gallons of algae oil a year per acre, compared to about 30 gallons per acre from corn; 50 gallons from soybeans.

Aquygen Video On YouTube

This seems to be the most viewed video on YouTube for Aquygen or HHO or HHO Gas.  Viewed over 100,000 times.  It was interesting to me that they said they showed their welding application to the Navy because it could "cut lead."

Why hasn't there been any press releases for 18-24 months?

So, here's the first installment of an interview I was able to perform today with Russ Scott who is COO of Hydrogen Technology Applications Inc. I wanted to start with the last question he was willing to answer because it was one that I thought was most interesting.

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Question: It seems like 18-24 months ago, there was an interest on the part of your company to talk to the media. But since then...there hasnt been....

Russ Scott: We're gonna stay......yeah....because....you know, the more we give, the more they want. And we're going to stay under the radar screen as much as we can until we're ready for a very strong public announcement as to what we've accomplished in that 18 month time period that you are making reference to right now. And...you know....we're just about there.

Question: so then, it was just a big pain when those early news stories came out? in other words, with the media interest it was difficult to conduct your business and stay focused is that what you're saying?

Russ Scott: There was too much....because what it did to this office...it buried this office trying to answer phone calls. The office wasn't prepared for that. So no, we're not going to put something else out there to create more of that. We dont have the infrastructure in terms of people sitting at desks just to take these phone calls.

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In future excerpts, I'll post what Russ had to say about immitators/scams, the time frame for his first automotive application, 3rd party laboratory validation, and other topics.